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In Reply to: It's me again...sorry...Goat getting way fat!!...and big time runny noses!! posted by Helene on October 08, 2001 at 10:37:49:
I was so sorry to hear about your sons goat. That has to be a very painful, trying experience for him to have to go through as well as you watching him go through it.
I cannot remember where I read it or heard it but I have chosen not to use LA200 because it does have alcohol as the carrier and it does burn. And from what I've heard as well, it is largely ineffective against pneumonia in some areas.
What I have used with great success is Tylan 200 which contains Tylosin as the active ingredient. Over the past few days we've had a young boer billy that has been quite remarkably off feed and sort of shivering like he has the hiccups. I can always tell when it's most probably pneumonia because the goat will just stand there and only show mild interest in food. Even such food as green leaves which they usually go nuts over.
Okay, so out came the 3cc of Tylan 200 and 15cc of Goat NutraDrench. I gave the injection subq under the front shoulder. 5 hours later the goat was showing marked improvement and actually began eating leaves and grass. The next day even better. But what I do is keep giving the 3cc's of Tylan 200 for 5 days straight whether they look improved or not. I've saved the majority of our goats showing these symptoms that way.
On the full belly - alot of times I have found that our goats tend to gorge themselves on whatever they can find in anticipation of a long, cold winter which we are about to engage in. It's a good idea to always keep a pan of baking soda available for them free choice just in case it is bloat.
Back to the pneumonia - I've noticed two or three distinct kinds of pneumonia and the one that seems to run rampant this time of year in our location is the one that displays very little if any nasal discharge. There is more of a raspy sound to their breathing - but all varieties still display the behavior of standing there and not being very interested in food. The Tylan 200 is specifically formulated for Pastuerella multocida. If the first shot does'nt bring marked improvement with 12 hours, then I do as the others suggested and use the more expensive Naxcel (Excenel) or Nufluor. If any of you can't find Tylan 200 and need some, I can get the 250ml bottles and provide them for I believe $22.50 (shipping included - but let me double check my price).
Oh, and on the temperature, normal temperatures range from 101.5 to 103.5. A little variation either way can be attributed to the weather as well - of course a goat is going to have a slightly higher temperature if it has been in the sun or has just come running in from the field. The problem with some strains of pneumonia is that temperature is not always an indicator. That's why I use the "behavior" method to determine if a goat is feeling well.
Again, please express my sincere sympathies to your son regarding his goat. I am going to try and get the picture you sent posted in the In Memoriam section for a permanent record for you.
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