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|Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 08:27 am: |
The placentas are never removed during an animal c section because of blood loss and the trauma of being under anesthesia. Four days to pass after such a traumatic labor and surgery is not that unusual.
Likely she died of peritonitis a generalized infection of the abdomen. She very likely had this before she even went for surgery. After being in labor of that long the tissue of the uterus tears or begins to break down. A c section is not a clean procedure the fluids from the uterus do get into the abdomen, no matter how careful the surgeon is. Sometimes there is a tear in the uterus the vet can't fix, sometimes this will heal on its own, sometimes not and it not it can be a source of continued infectious material.
The kids died of shock and septicemia too, they can't take having mom in labor that long and have a good chance of survival. I am sure the vet was pretty surprised they were alive at all, I am sure he thought he would be delivering long dead kids.
Once the water has broken and a doe starts to push she should produce a kid within 15 to 30 minutes with about 10 to 15 minutes between kids. If it goes longer than 45 minutes to an hour the doe is in serious trouble.
So sorry for your loss...
Goat 911 Capri Medic
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|Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 07:18 am: |
Tina, I'm so sorry! I really don't have any answers but as someone else posts their thoughts, perhaps someone could answer another question I have as I read your note.
Why didn't the vet take the placentas when the c-section was done? I've read about c-sections in humans and that there is less blood loss when the placenta passes naturally, but is it the general way of doing things to let it pass naturally in animals or not? Also, if it was taking 4 days to pass, wouldn't that just be too long and should the vet have been more reactive to getting them out?
Please take my questions not as critisim, but rather as an opportunity to learn. I can't imagine your pain at the loss of all 4 of these beautiful creatures. It's so frustrating to feel helpless I know.
Falla's Lush Acres Dairy
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|Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 04:35 am: |
My doe had an emergency c-section on April 15th. She was in labor for over 12 hours and made no progress. Her cervix was closed and the kids malpositioned. She was very painful, but with a lot of help, was able to stand. She continued to drink water well but was only eating very little. The vet said she didn't have toxemia. Within minutes of being born by c-section we lost a buck. We took the doe and 2 kids home. The buck was very weak & would not bottle feed. We fed him with a stomach tube. He died the next day. That left a little doe that looked just like her mom. Mom continued to act very painful, was drinking but not eating much. She took 4 days to pass the placenta's. I was giving her Banamine for pain and put her on an antibiotic SQ, per the vet. She showed no improvement. The remaining kid was being bottle fed. The first few days she took the bottle, then became weak, lethargic, and refused to nurse. I needed to syringe feed her. We returned to the vet April 21st. The doe and kid had completely normal vital signs. The vet said they were just recovering slowly and to continue syringe feeding the kid, antibiotics for both, & pain medication for mom. I was also giving both Nutridrench. On April 22nd, Mom died. I talked to my vet, she said it was most likely complications from surgery. I asked if it could have been toxemia and she didn't feel it was. I was really worried because I wanted to do anything possible to save my little doe. That night, April 23 at 4am the kid had a seizure and died.
Any ideas of what caused them all to die?