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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 02:50 pm:   

I have lots of clover in my pasture and the goats eat alot of it.
Maggie Leman
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sandra miller
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 08:56 am:   

Are you saying that your herd will eat the clover and kill it or the clover would kill your your herd? When I checked her eye lids on day two of treatment they did have a rosey pink color, not white or too pale. She had been wormed the month before (4/6). However, she (as well as the rest of my herd)had been underdose with Ivermectin previously. I had gotten the dosage elsewhere and it was only 1/2 of what you recommend. I will worm everyone again now with the higher dose. Again, thank you for all of your time and help. I've learned a lot!
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 08:28 am:   

Clover is not the problem if it was my herd would be dead. I will bet you it was worms...A wormer will kill the worms, then all of them die and turn loose of the stomach and intestinal walls and often a goat will get a bit worse as all of those tiny wounds bleed even more. Now she needs to continue to get over the anemia and the digestive tract damage. This can take several months to a year or more.
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sandra miller
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 03:32 am:   

Thanks again Maggie!!! As it turns out she seemed to "turn a corner" yesterday. Of course she still looks underweight. However I saw the first normal looking goat berries from her!!! She also had a brighter look in her eye (it was her dull appearance that really worried me). Her appetite seems better too. I have tried to figure out just what went wrong in the first place. I did notice that we have some clover coming up in the field. When I did some research I found that clover can be a mild toxin for goats. Now I'm wondering if that may be the culprit. I may need to find out how to get that out of the field. I truly appreciate your time and all of your help.
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 08:22 pm:   

B Complex injectables are used for different things. When it is used to treat polio or listeriosis it is given according to the amount of thiamin it contains at the dosage required to be therapeutic for these diseases.

When it is used as a vitamin supplement it can be given daily or even weekly. For a goat recovering from disease, being off feed, or stress it is often given daily. When given to other wise healthy animals but that may be subject to stress one can give it weekly (probably a waste as a ruminant with healthy digestive microbes gets plenty of B vitamins).

GIve a probiotic daily, a tablespoon of yogurt works well as a substitute. You can give Goat Nutridrench, Geritol (give the adult dose, or RedCell for Horses (give half the horse dose) once a day to help with added vitamins and minerals especially iron if she is anemic.

Go very easy when increasing the amount of grain, increasing by 1/4 cup per feeding every 2 to 3 days. The guidelines on most feedbags are a very good place to start (probably about half for a nigerian). Perhaps adding a roughage higher in nutrition like alfalfa might be better. Introduce this in small amounts too. Roughage makes the digestive microbes happier and stimulates good rumen and intestinal movement. Roughage should always be at least 90 percent of a goats diet.
Maggie Leman
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