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     Angela Gries New member Username: agries Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 204.185.27.18 Rating: N/A |
HI Carl, Good luck with getting the baby to nurse off the momma. We had one that was similar to your situation.. but we kept hog tying the doe (almost a week) and letting the kid nurse and get stronger and stronger… we literally tied her head to the fence and her leg to the fence.. then we made a milking station and that worked easier... then when we weren’t feeding we had them in a small stall together.. either she started standing for him or he just was quick enough to run her down.. either way after about a week they were getting along great.. I think at first she had way to much milk.. she was part dairy goat.. and it probably hurt when he sucked so she moved.. but after a few days then the tenderness goes away and they stand better.. we put some bag balm on her I think that helped.. Keep trying it is so much better for them to be raised by the momma.. Angie~ | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 172.163.29.28 Rating: N/A |
About the bottle feeding. In the first two or three weeks need to feed the baby more often like 5 times per 24 hr period spaced evenly apart. After a few weeks, you can reduce to 4 feedings and give more milk per feeding as he grows. Then when he begans eating solids, reduce to 3 then eventually down to 2 times daily. Do not let the baby lay out in the hot sun as he will rapidly overheat and dehydrate. Now about the disinterested mama. Congrats on the 30 new kids. With that many at one time,are you sure that the little buck belongs to that Alpine doe? In know from experience that unless you seen him at time of birth, it can become confusing which doe might be rejecting it. Newborn rejection is more likely to happen if the doe is left to breed out in open pastures, as opposed if she was placed in a small pen prior to birth then she cannot run off and leave her kid. 4 1/2 hrs after your first post and you already given up on the doe. It is going to take alot more time(days) and patience than that unless you just like the bottle feeding routine for week after week. Did the baby want to suck from the doe's teat? If that is the actual mother of the buck, I would restrain the mother and stand and hold the baby in position to suck the teat for several days before giving up. Do not let the mother bite at the babies tail nor kick him. Getting the baby sucking the teat is half of it. Then if that is the real mother of that buck, she might began showing some mothering instinct towards it and eventually accept it. | ||
| Carl Sven Anderson New member Username: sven55 Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 74.32.159.230 Rating: N/A |
Ok I tried very hard with two of us. She had no interest in letting the baby suck. I will put him out Mon. morning see how he does. I will just keep bottle feeding him. This doe was bottle fed by her owners before me would that have anything to do with her not wanting to nurse her own kids. This was a little hard to take out of 30 babies born this spring it is the first one we lost. Thanks everyone for the help. | ||
| molly mangum (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 64.136.49.229 Rating: N/A |
the mama goat starting pushing her 2 kids away it started yesterday they are 4 days old what does thet mean? | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 172.148.179.14 Rating: N/A |
Carl you are not trying hard enough. This is common in first time mamas. You need to restrain the mama. Have someone help hold her by the horns or tie her horns against a wall. Do this when the baby is hungry and wanting to suck. Take the kid and push and keep the mama against the wall. Stand the kid in position and put his mouth to the nipple. Hold a nipple at his mouth or if possible put the nipple into his mouth. Hard part is to keep mama from kicking the baby. Once the kid sucks some milk from the nipple then he quickly learns there is more where that came from. Just have to keep very firm with the mama. Between milkings keep them together in a small pen like 4 by 5 feet so they will bond. After a couple of days there is a good chance she will accept her kid and then your difficult work is greatly eased. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 952 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141  Rating: N/A |
I do raise all of my bottle babies with the herd. They learn to eat solid food faster watching the adult goats and they learn to be proper goats. You can keep him in for a day or two to get him well started, then put him out for at lest the day to start and then for overnight. Of course the other goats showed no interest, he is not their kid! Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Carl Sven Anderson New member Username: sven55 Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 74.32.159.230 Rating: N/A |
I tried to hold the mother but she kicks and tries to get away. I just milked her totally out and was going to feed the milk to him tonight and next am. Thanks for the info. Carl | ||
| Barbara Howard Advanced Member Username: bhoward Post Number: 88 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 208.135.164.84 Rating: N/A |
Hi,Carl You start out with giving 1 ounce per 1 lb of body weight when feeding tn 3 days you can up the nilk. At one week feed him 3 times a day mostly what he wants. You can also hold the momma and let him nurse.}}}} Barbara Howard Capri-Medic jamesa@mrtc.com 606-522-3388 KY | ||
| Carl Sven Anderson New member Username: sven55 Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 74.32.159.230 Rating: N/A |
Hello, I've got an Alpine Doe who will not feed her babies. I didn't notice in time to save the doe, but I brought the buck in the house milked out the mother and fed him.(4:30 pm today) My question is how much do I feed him and how often. I've got a nipple on a 16 oz soda bottle. I fed him about 2/3's of the bottle. They were born yesterday during the night, will that long of a wait to eat hurt him in the long run. This is the first of over twenty goats to kid to reject her babies. Is this common? Also will it hurt him to be in the house? I don't think he will do well with the rest of the goats, seeing the baby doe died and none of the rest of the goats show any interest in him. Thank you for your time and help. Carl |