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Maggie Leman
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Post Number: 1241
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Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 09:42 am:   

The minimal amount of guaifinsen secreted in the milk shouldn't hurt the kid. Udder size has nothing to do with adequate milk production, especially since she has only one kid. If the kid is playful he is getting enough. LEARN TO USE A STOMACH TUBE (both Jeffers and VAlley Vet sell them they are cheap), it has saved many kids and is very easy and nearly fool proof if you follow the directions from the article on the Article page on Goatworld.
Maggie Leman
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Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser
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Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 08:51 am:   

Lincoln was more lively this morning. Did a few kid leaps. I gave him some milk replacement by syringe. He would not drink from a bowl. Tried lamb nipple and pritchard nipples, but he would not suck. After his feeding (about 3 oz), he went to nurse from Mama. Did see him swallow, so he must be getting some from her. She has small udders, but they are both full. The milk is good.
Mama does have respiratory problems, due to allergies. Am treating her with guaifinsen (robitussin)liquid to thin the mucous. She has been coughing and bringing the clear mucous out through her nose. her breathing is much better. Will the guaifinsen effect her milk?
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Don (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 08:13 pm:   

The baby sounds very weak from mal-nourishment. I had to use the syringe with a short piece of vinyl tube on the end, for a day or two. After that the baby should be strong enough to suck on a pritchard nipple. The syringe feeding must be done very slowly with patience. I also try to hand milk some from the mother to use in the syringe. I would add a bit of corn syrup in with the milk feeding to help with energy.

What is the condition of the mother? Proper milk production requires very good feeding. I would hand milk off some into a cup and see it if it looks and smells proper. A foul smell may indicate bacteria problem, perhaps mastitis.
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 09:41 am:   

Kids that have nursed from the doe will very reluctantly switch to a bottle. COntinue to try to give a bottle, make sure the milk is very warm. Also do what you were thinking to do, any kids learn to suck milk from a bowl. Starving weak old kids will try to eat solid foods. Is the doe milking well? Does her milk flow easily? Does she have mastitis? DOes she even HAVE milk?
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Barbara and Barry Neiderhiser
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Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 09:36 am:   

Kid continues to try to nurse from Mama, but doesn't seem to be getting much- bumps bag, changes nipples and cries. Found him weak yesterday and knew that we needed to intervene. Tried several different nipples to give him some of Mama's milk, but he would not suck. Gave him some colostrum gel which he mouthed and swallowed. Did try to syringe milk in but I'm concerned about his aspirating. He has been trying to eat solid foods. What I found worked, was to give him milk pellets soaked in goat milk. I think I can get the nutrition he needs in him. I am concerned about getting adequate fluid in him.
Any suggestions? I'm thinking that what I need to do is gradually increase the fluid in the milk pellets until he is drinking milk from a bowl. Is this the best approach?
He is getting stronger with each feeding attempt and I think that we can save this little kid with some guidance. Thanks

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