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     Don S. (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 172.164.72.187 Rating: N/A |
Linda, you can give Magic which is a good homemade boost formula. I guess it is still recommended. 1 part molasses, 2 parts karo syrup, 1 part corn/veg oil. Mix with a bit of warm water to thin it. For adult - Give 3-4 times a day 3 ounces at the time orally slightly warmed. The molasses will treat the anemia. The karo is short acting energy, and the corn oil is long acting energy. My only concern is that if it starts to cause diarrhea you would need to cut way back on it as sugar substances tend to do. Probios is a shelf item. If you have a Tractor Supply store in your area, they usually stock it or check with your local feed stores. The thiamin is RX item. Must get from the vet. If they are good about it they will sell you a vial of it along with dosage instructions. You will need to use quite a bit to aggressively treat your goat in order to save him. Maggie knows best when it comes to diagnosing goat illnesses. | ||
| Linday Trowell New member Username: trowell Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 24.64.223.204 Rating: N/A |
Thanks Maggie and Paul. | ||
| Paul Gooden New member Username: paullis Post Number: 40 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 67.142.130.20 Rating: N/A |
You can get probiotic from any of the usual on-line sources such as Jeffers, Hoegger or Valley Vet, it comes in a tube with a calibrated dial. In the interim you can give plain yogurt with active cultures including L acidophilus and B. bifidus. Maggie is right on, he needs the Fortified B. Get some one inch syringes from your farmers Co-Op and give SQ. | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 24.64.223.204 Rating: N/A |
Where can I get probiotic from or do I have to get it from the vet. They totally gauged me they charged me $50 for four shots of .66cc's. I will go back out to get more. I showed the first vet your email and she didn't seem to agree, however he still doesn't sound all that raspy if it were pneumonia, so I don't nessesarily agree with her. I keep their hay undercover and I only bought it a couple of weeks ago. The goats shouldn't be starving as they get lots of hay to eat everyday, salt lick and grain (not much) I only have two goats and other than my dogs no other animals enter the pen. Yoda was born in April. He still has strengh but no balance and I doubt if he sees well. HE hasn't eaten today other than a few morsels of grain. Do you have a partially liquid cocktail that I could make or blend for him? | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1401 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109  Rating: N/A |
He needs the thiamin every 6 hours (for at least a day and then 2 to 3 times a day for another week) and the oxytet at least once a day. You may see improvement in as little as a day. Give a probiotic too to help replenish the lost digestive microbes that normally make thiamin. Since this went on for a few days before treatment began the brain and affected nerves will take a few days to start to heal and for the swelling to go down. But you have to give enough thiamin at frequent intervals. Thiamin is not stored in the body, so what isn't used fairly quickly will be eliminated in the urine. It is very hard to overdose thiamin due to this. He has goat polio (polioencephalomalacia) all the classic signs. This is caused by a sudden change in feed, eating moldy feed, giving oral antibiotics, a heavy worm or coccidia load, anything that would cause the digestive microbes to die. It is these microbes that usually make thiaimin for the goat. Only starving goats will eat bracken fern. It takes several months of eating alot of it and blindness is the result. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 24.64.223.204 Rating: N/A |
Sunday The vet percribed an antibiotic oxy-tetracyclene. and B1 with thiamine. But becuase the only vet open on a sunday was a city vet she didn't have the medication that be needed. HE was circling and footstomping. Temp normal. She diagnosed possible pneumonia, or poisioning from bracken fern. (Commmon out here) Last night we had a terrible rain storm 110mm over night so I went to check on him. HE was drooling....the first I have seen of this. He was dry and warm in his pen. Today I brought him in while my husband went to get the medication from the vet. When I got him inside he was still drooling and his tounge was hanging out his left side of his mouth. He tries to eat and I have been eye dropping liquid into his mouth. Now he doen't have the eye watering or discharge. But he is foot stomping and circling. He is hydrated and his temp is 103. He has moments when his breathing is more rapid. For the most part is is calm and shallow. Does anyone know when I should see signs of improvement? L. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1395 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
Let us know how it goes. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Linday Trowell New member Username: trowell Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 24.64.223.204 Rating: N/A |
I can get him in first thing to see the vet, it took some calling around to find someone for a sunday. thnx | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1393 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
Sounds like listeriosis or goat polio. Treat by giving penicillin at 1 cc per 15 pounds by SQ injection every 6 hours for the first 24 hours then 2 times a day for 5 more days. Also give injectable thiamin (vitamin B1) or FORTIFIED B Complex injectable (this one has 100 mg/ml of thiamin, vitamin B1, check the label) at 1 cc per 20 pounds every 6 hours for the first day then 3 times a day for 5 more days. If you can only get the regular formula of B Complex injectable (this one has only 12.5 mg/ml of thiamin) you have to give 1 cc per 3 pounds of body weight every 6 hours. It is vital treatment begins ASAP, the longer you wait the more brain damage there is. Both listeriosis and goat polio are fatal if not treated promptly. Try to keep him hydrated by drenching with about a pint of water 4-8 times a day if he is not drinking. 4 pints for a small goat or pygmy to 8 pints for a full sized goat. If you have a vet call them now and tell them you suspect listeriosis or polio. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Linday Trowell New member Username: trowell Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 24.64.223.204 Rating: N/A |
Hi I have a sick goat. His Temp is 104.7 and he is leaning with his head against the wall there is a milky discharge from his eyes and he is sneezing. His eyes look kinda big too. He is staggering and acting weird he is hardly comeing out of his pen in the day at all. |