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     Don S. (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 172.128.68.47 Rating: N/A |
Would Poly Serum be worth the money for helping treat the pasturella pneumonia? It seems to be designed for such illnesses. A bit expensive. Never used it, but was wondering if it is something to have in the medicine kit? There is a big selection of on-the-shelf pill type vitamins and medicines these days for people. Can they be just as effective on goats? Example: there is a Super B-Complex available in tablet form. For anemia treatments, I been giving Rexall Gentle Iron capsules. Contents: Iron(ferrous bisglycinate)28mg, Vitamin C(asorbic acid) 60mg, Folic Acid 400 mcg, Vitamin B-12 8 mcg. I thought this was a good formula since learning that for Iron to be effectively absorbed, there must be acid present And the importance of B-12 as it aids folic acid in regulating the formation of red blood cells, and helps in the utilization of iron. Caution: when administering tetracycline antibiotics, wait a day or so afterwards before giving such the iron/acid becauses the acid supposingly interferes with absorbtion of the antibiotic. | ||
| Barbara Howard Advanced Member Username: bhoward Post Number: 150 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 208.135.164.34 Rating: N/A |
Great she is still alive. I would continue the Nuflor. If she is cudding she is ruminating so that is good. Her pale membranes shows anemia most likely from parasites. I would switch her wormer to Cydectin a cattle pour on given orally 1cc/18 lbs it is good. Red Cell is a blood builder to help her red blood cells start building back . I would give her 6cc orally twice a day and also warm water with molasses added is great as well it is full of Iron and starts absorbing as they swallow it. Barbara Howard Capri-Medic jamesa@mrtc.com 606-522-3388 KY | ||
| Jena Marutiak New member Username: jenam Post Number: 4 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 64.50.228.37 Rating: N/A |
OH JOy! She is still alive and looking a little better. I gave her the Nuflor last night. Yes, she has been eating and drinking but not with the gusto she usually shows...she is picking at her grain (1 cup of goat feed 2 times a day). I have been worming them with Ivermectin every 3 months, and they had their last dose Oct 4th. Is it time to change the worming meds? I was thinking about using the Hoegger Herbal Wormer. That seems to be pretty broad spectrum.Is it effective enough to be used by itself? I looked at the Cornell Vet Consultant site..It really looks like they have had pasturella. I don't understand how they got it though. I keep the stalls very clean, and spray the Barn Fresh microbial on the bedding after I scoop out most of the wet sawdust and berries. There were only 4 in a stall that is 20 by 25ft. There has been stress lately because I have had some building going on around the barn, a new shelter put up, etc. I'll get the Red Cell today...is that a wormer? Thanks for all of your help!! | ||
| Gary Pfalzbot Board Administrator Username: admin Post Number: 77 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.142.130.33  Rating: N/A |
Jena, Forgot to add...I wouldn't worry about the CD/T right now as it would not be immediately effective. The more I am thinking about this situation, the more inclined I am to think you are seeing worms/internal parasites just from what I have read in your posts. Best regards, GP Gary Pfalzbot, GoatWorld | ||
| Gary Pfalzbot Board Administrator Username: admin Post Number: 76 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.142.130.33 Rating: N/A |
Jena, The white eyelids indicate that this goat has worms - eyelids and gums should be pinkish in color. Is this goat eating or drinking at all? The temp you mentioned is considered normal. 103 right? Some forms of pneumonia will have a fever associated, some won't. While I would not rule out pneumonia, usually it strikes so fast that the goat is up and about one day, down on its side paddling its legs the next. While I'm not a vet myself, what I would recommend is getting a bottle of Red Cell asap from your feed store and getting about 8 to 10 cc's down her orally right away. This will help give her system a boost while at the same time help to possibly stabilize any worms and internal parasites. Do this for at least 5 days straight. Considering that you've already lost two goats, it may not be a bad idea to go ahead and give 1cc of the Nuflor right away as well. I'm sure Maggie and Barbara can also give you some advice here as they have alot of great knowledge and have helped alot of people. Please keep us posted. Best regards, GP Gary Pfalzbot, GoatWorld | ||
| Jena Marutiak New member Username: jenam Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 216.170.153.151 Rating: N/A |
the inside of her eyelid looks almost white.I pulled up her top lid. She is very panicky and stiff-gaited sort-of.I have an anti-biotic that was given by the vet for my little Nigerian, but he died before I could use it. Nuflor 3cc's. Would that be helpful? | ||
| Jena Marutiak New member Username: jenam Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 216.170.153.151 Rating: N/A |
No she hasn't been vec. for pasturella. I just got the pasturella vac.from Hoeggers yesterday! She is current on CDT...that is once a year, isn't it? She was cudding earlier today, but not sure about the ruminations..she won't let me near her, and just runs and gets panicky. The Hoeggers catalog said to give to healthy goats as a preventative. Can I give it to her also? Yjamks you for your help!! I will look at that web site, also. | ||
| Farouk Pandor New member Username: vetkasi Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2006 Posted From: 168.167.220.254 Rating: N/A |
Hi I hope Pygmy is much improved now. Actually I came across this Consultant by Cornell and maybe you could pick up something from there. Its http://www.vet.cornell.edu/consultant/Consult.asp?Fun=Sign&spc=&dxkw=&sxkw=&sign s= | ||
| Barbara Howard Advanced Member Username: bhoward Post Number: 149 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 208.135.164.75 Rating: N/A |
That sounds like pasturella pneumonia has she been vaccinated for it? Is she current on CD&T? Check her inner eyelids and gums to see what color they are. Have you seen her cudding and can you feel ruminant movement? Barbara Howard Capri-Medic jamesa@mrtc.com 606-522-3388 KY | ||
| Jena Marutiak New member Username: jenam Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 216.170.153.151 Rating: N/A |
My 1 1/2 year old Pygmy doe seems to have pneumonia. Her breathing is very labored and shallow, and she is lethargic. No temp to speak of- 103 degrees.She has no nasal discharge, no diarrhea, is urinating.No changes in food or water. She has been funky since Sunday..slower than usual, not as hungry. I have has 2 other goats act this way,(her sister and my 8 month old Nigerian wether) have been treated with anti-biotics, and have gone into convulsions and died. Horrible. OUr vet doesn't know what is wrong- does anyone have any ideas? I don't want to loose her also. Should I separate her from my remaining 2 goats? When I did earlier today she cried so much that I worried about her stress.PLus I removed her sister from the herd and it didn't help. |