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Maggie Leman
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Post Number: 1532
Registered: 07-2005
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Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 07:24 am:   

It is unlikely they have been vaccinated. If they were vaccinated it was likely because the farm they came from has a problem with CL anyway. Supposedly the vaccine does not cause a positive antibody test. They will very likely develop an active case of the disease at some time. I believe it may be possible for them to spread the disease in utero, It is highly likely they will spread it if they feed their own kids (abscesses often develop in the udder putting the bacteria in the milk) even bottle feeding the kids may not prevent them from getting it and it is released into the environment, unlike CAE. You won't be able to use the milk or colostrum from these does to feed kids, and shouldn't use it yourself either...

If they have CL they may "appear" healthy but are not. If you intend to sell breeding stock get rid of them. CL can live in the soil and buildings of your barn for a long time and it only takes one infected and germ shedding animal to do the dirty deed. You can't tell whether it is being spread in the feces, by coughing or sneezing or in the milk as abscesses just as often occur internally (in the lungs, along the digestive system, in the udder) as externally. If you intend to only sell goats for meat you can perhaps manage the disease, but goats with active abscesses sell for alot less at slaughter. CL in an active case causes wasting, it is considered to be a wasting disease. Eventually most animals with CL begin to lose weight and do poorly. Most young animals with CL don't get an active case until they are a bit older, stress can cause it to become active.

Your vet can not be sure they do not have an active infection at this time, many abscesses occur internally and go undetected until slaughter. If these were mine they would be OFF my farm and I would think very hard before putting even quarantined goats into any pens or building where these have been for at least 6 months. A thorough cleaning and plenty of bleach would be a must...
Maggie Leman
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Krystal Clemmons
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2006
Posted From: 207.118.100.238

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Posted on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 08:52 pm:   

I just had 3 (new) does test positive for CL, my vet said that they do NOT have an active infection, just that they have been exposed to the organisms. They are currently quarantined anyway, and will remain such until I know what to do with them. I hate to lose them, I've only had them for a month. Will their kids have CL if I don't bottle feed them? And if I do? Is it possible that the goats were just vaccinated for CL and that's why they have the antibodies? Help me! Thanks. I hate to get rid of healthy does. Yet do not want to endanger my others. Thanks.
Krystal

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