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Ainslee Love (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 10:33 am:   

Well, we're starting to have a downfall I think. She was doing a little better, and even tried to walk out of her little spot in the barn yesterday morning. However, between now and then she has gotten to where she can stand if I help her up, and can't walk at all. Our local feed store is closed until tomorrow so I'm stuck with the safeguard until then. (We live over an hour away from the next town) I bought some plain yogurt and some molasses and corn syrup to mix up for her as well. If anyone knows anything else to make for her between now and then I would love to hear your suggestions! Thanks!
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Cheryl Hayward
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 08:47 pm:   

Hi,
Safeguard isn't effective against worms anymore due to its overuse in the past.
If you can't get the liquid ivermectin get a tube of horse wormer, dose at 3-4 times the horse amount.

Keep up your good work!!!

I too took in 7 goats that were not in the best of shape. 1 poor nanny still had a kid on her and the nanny was all bones. I immediately pulled the kid off, wormed mom and everyone else and got mom started on grain and free choice hay. I also gave her liquid childrens motrin (ibuprofen) to help with the pain in her muscles since she was down alot of the time. After about 3 weeks of good feed, warmth, wormings, and off and on ibuprofen she was getting up on her own and finally shaped up to be a decent doe. She was never bred again, though I didn't want to stress her out again. She went for a companion pet.

Best wishes your way!

Cheryl
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Dawn Summers
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 05:51 pm:   

I have to be honest, safeguard is pretty much useless. I would go get the ivomec asap.
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 10:14 am:   

Please give her 3 to 5 times the horse or cattle dose. That will be the only way Safeguard is effecite for goats. Using a dose less than that only leaves the worms that are paritially or completely resistant to Safeguard. Sounds like the gal is a tough one.
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Ainslee Love (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 09:48 am:   

She already seems to be doing a little better. It was getting below freezing here last night so we put her in the barn. For the last day or two when we would find her down she couldn't even sit with her head up. Now she at least can do that much. She still can't stand on her own so I'm out there every two hours or so to pick her up and let her go potty. She eats a little food here and there then goes back to the pile of hay we put out for her. Unfortunately thanks to the major drought our area has had, the only hay available is costal. She eats it a little at a time. When she gets up she can only stand for a few minutes at a time, but I figured that is better than nothing. As for dewormer, all we had was safeguard. We gave her that, and I'll probably give her some more tomorrow. If it doesn't seem to work I'll drive to town for the ivermectin. Thank you!
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Dawn Summers
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 02:53 am:   

I did forget to mention that the ivomec is given orally. Let us know how she is feeling.
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norma duxbury
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 11:16 pm:   

hi everyone,
thats how i got my baby girl! we let the neighbors keep some of their goats in our barn because we've just moved here and didnt have any animals of our own yet. my husband was going out of town for 2 weeks and had about 30 minutes before he had to leave for the airport, so we decided to check on things before he left. thats when we found her laying on her side and almost dead! i couldnt do anything but cry. i knew i didnt want her to die without me knowing i had done everything possible to save her. it was time for my husband to leave so we went back to the house, said our goodbyes and i was on the phone trying to find a vet that i could take her to. after finally finding 1 i had to get her there so i put her in the back of my toyota 4 runner and off we went! when we got to the vet, he did a fecal exam to check for worms which was positive, took some of her blood, spun it in the centrifuge to seperate the red and white cells, when he came back he told me in a healthy animal the red cells should read at about 45 - 50, hers were at 10 so she was definitely anemic. he went on to say she would need a blood transfusion from a healthy goat. she stayed at the vets for 3 days. she looked worse than when i first took her. i could tell she wasnt being cared for the right way! when i had asked if they were feeding her the girl said and i quote..."we put a piece of dog food in her mouth but she just rolled it around and then spit it out!" you cant even begin to know how pissed i was! i told them we (me and the boy that owned her)were taking both goats home today. the bill came to $150.00 which i paid and thats when i became the proud new owner of a very sick goat(merry christmas to me!). when i got her home i knew she had to be starving so i put her food in a food processor, added some bounce back and began spoon feeding her. that went on for about a week. then she finally gained enough strength hold up her head a little so i started feeding her the normal way. ive never owned a goat before so i had no idea of what i was doing! i didnt know of anybody i could call except for the the people that had owned the goat before my vet bill! i had a book called small-scaled herding for pleasure and profit by sue weaver! while reading the book i came across the magic recipe and started adding that to her food. thats when i decided id be the crazy, obsessed goat lady and actually call sue for help! i got her # and left some silly message practically begging her for help! boy, was i surprised when she actually called me back! shes been great about everything, even giving me #'s of other people that might be able to help me! thanks again sue for everything you have done! zoey(thats what i named her)is getting stronger everyday! she can stand for a few minutes but i still have to get her on her feet. shes come a long way in just a few short weeks. i know it wont be much longer until shes walking again! i cant wait!! ok now that ive talked your ears off, i'll say good night! ainslee love i hope your goat gets better!

night!
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 07:18 pm:   

Sounds like good advice I don't really have anything to add, except to remind you again to go slow with the feed.
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Dawn Summers
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 05:41 pm:   

I will help out as best I can until Maggie can answer. I don't know what you used to deworm her with but I recommend Ivomec 1 cc per 25 pounds make sure you give a large enough dose, it is better to give a little more then not enough. I would treat her again in 2 days.
You can mix up some magic....molasses, little corn oil and some water to thin it. She should slurp this up, mine always do. Does she have a fever? What is it?
Don't load her down with feed right away it will overload her rumen. She isn't used to lots of feed, I wouldn't think she is anyway.I would just give her about a cup of feed twice a day for a week or so and gradually increase it. Make sure she has fresh water, if it is cold in your area bring hot water from the house, they love it. Also give her plenty of good quality hay, not too much alfalfa because it is so rich and again her system might not be used to it. Put out some minerals, free choice, use cattle minerals it has the correct amounts of copper and such. It also wouldn't hurt to get some Bo-Se from a vet and give her an injection.
It is important as you know to make sure she moves around or her muscles will deteriorate very rapidly. It sounds like she is very lucky to have you rescue her. She has found a caring home and you should be proud of yourself.
I bought registered oberhasli's last spring sight unseen, I was going by the bloodlines they carried and thought I would be lucky to add these girls to my herd. Long story short, they were delivered and I cried, they were skin and bones. I sold 2 after getting them healthy and kept the best one. I had a very well known breeder here last month that just through a fit over that beautiful obe doe in my barn....she couldnt believe it when I told her how this doe was 6 months ago. You can get a poor animal healthy again. Keep the faith.
Dawn
Windy Fields Farm
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Ainslee Love (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 04:50 pm:   

We have a nanny that we just rescued a few days ago from a neighbor. She is skin and bones literally almost. We know his heard had worms, which he treated for, and all but two of them started gaining a little weight again. We have them both, gave some dewormer to them today, and we're still not sure what to do with one. She is so weak she can't stand for more than a few minutes at a time, and most of the time when she goes down we have to go out and help her stand back up.her jaw is swollen so we've given her some geritol,nutradrench, and B12. We also have her on a heating pad in the barn to keep her warm.Is there anything else we can do to help her gain weight a little quicker and get some energy?

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