Post Number: 154
Posted From: 22.214.171.124
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|Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 12:39 pm: |
I believe you seriously underdosed. The sheep dose is the same as the cattle dose (.2 mg/kg), which means you have to about triple the dose rate for the sheep drench to be effective in goats. If I am correct the bottle states to give 3 cc per 26 pounds. So if using the sheep drench the dose for goats would be 3 cc per 8 to 10 pounds. You didn't hurt anything but you may not have killed many worms either. One of the reasons the capri medics suggest using the cattle injectable is because you can give a much smaller amount because it is highly concentrated.
The animals in which ivermectin may cause severe reactions is in dogs, particularly collie dogs. Actually there are very few drugs labeled for or approved for goats, most drugs are used "extra label". The reason for this is it costs ALOT of money for the drug companies to test each drug on each species of animal. So they only test and label the drugs for those animals that are commercially valuable or economically valuable. At this time goats are still pretty low on the totem pole but that is slowly changing with the meat goat industry increasing and the high interest in goat dairy products.
As for guessing weight, here is a way to figure the weight of almost any animal:
measure the heart girth in inches, measure the length of the body from the point of shoulder to the base of the tail (in goats that would be the pin bone). Then use this formula:
heart girth x heart girth x length of body divided by 300, the result will be in pounds. This is amazingly accurate and you won't believe how far off most people are when they "guess". Please go the extra step and get a more accurate weight.
Goat 911 Capri Medic
Post Number: 13
Posted From: 126.96.36.199
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|Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 08:48 am: |
I use Ivomec and know a lot of people who do. You're fine there. I'm just starting up with my goats and don't know much myself so I won't say anything more but wanted to put your mind at ease about the product anyway...that's what my vet gave me for my pregnant does.
meadowview (Unregistered Guest)
Posted From: 188.8.131.52
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|Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 08:36 am: |
Let's just say I used the Ivomec sheep drench (ivermectin .o8%) on my herd of Boer Cross does. I was thinking I had read that Ivomec is very safe and because of this safety factor you were to up the dosage by 1 cc to ensure enough was given. (I guessed at the weight of animal and used the rate of 1cc for every 25/lb. plus added 1 cc to the total.) After doing so--I THEN read the bottle that stated for SHEEP ONLY!!!!
a.) Have I just poinsoned the entire herd?
b.) Did I do nothing for the goats since this is for sheep only?
c.) If o.k. for goats, did I use enough?
d.) Next time should I use a different dewormer?
I have heard of using Ivomec inj. for cattle given orally. (Thought that's what I was doing)
1cc for 25lb.
Cydectin pour-on orally 1cc for 25/lbs.
Valbazen orally 1cc for 10/lbs.
Are there any other choices, and are my doesages correct? Which dewormer is the best, in your opinion? Thank you.
(All goats seem to be "normal" after deworming with Ivomec sheep drench)