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     Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 712 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141  Rating: N/A |
If you can't find a probiotic at the feed store yogurt works just fine. It can be flavored if you like so long as it have live cultures. I usually buy a flavor I like and eat the leftover. Give about 1 tablespoon or so a day. If you are bottle feeding you can mix it in his bottle. Naxcel does not get into the joint tissue as well as oxytet so it is not as effective in cases of joint ill. Its a great drug for respiratory disease but not so great for joint ill. You can usually get oxytet at the feed store, it will cost ALOT less than buying it from the vet. And if you decide to switch you don't have to explain yourself to the vet. It is your call whether to switch antibiotics. But I have used both for joint ill and my preference and what I have seen work best for my kids was oxytet. Alot of vets worry that people will read about not giving oxytet to kids (and other babies). This is because it can stain the permanent teeth and bones (this wouldn't look good on slaughtered animals) if given at very high doses for a very long time (30 days or more). When given orally (which you don't do with goats) it is weakened by milk. The dose is 1 cc per 30 pounds (start with at least 0.5 cc) by SQ injection once a day. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Amy Maxwell New member Username: amyqmaxwell Post Number: 17 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 70.57.15.71  Rating: N/A |
Maggie, First of all, Thank you, again. The vet gave me Naxel (not sure on the spelling) for an antibiotic. Only one antibiotic, NOT two being given at this time. I did call the vet's to see if we can switch because I sure expected him to be much better by now. I will pick up the Motrin, I kept thinking Tylenol for some reason. (As I've seen you recommend it before in other postings - just got them mixed up.) Does the vet have the probiotic or can I pick it up somewhere else? I know my vet think's I'm just crazy with all the goat stuff. Especially with the mamma that can't walk. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 710 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141 Rating: N/A |
Tylenol does not work for goats and has NO anti inflamatory properties. Switch to Liquid Childrens Motrin at 1 cc per 10 pounds every 4 to 6 hours as needed and see if it works better. Check to see what antibiotic your vet has him on, it may be at too low a dose it may be counteracting with the oxytet. I have nearly always had very rapid results with using oxytet but I never give 2 antibiotics at the same time. With all these drugs be sure he is getting a probiotic daily. If the injectable pain meds helped so much I still lean toward joint ill. The longer it has gone on (and it could be nearly from birth) the longer it will be before he recovers. Give at least 0.5 cc of the oxytet SQ but probably more like 1.0 cc at least for the first couple of days. Because oxytet settles in the bones it is the first choice for treating joint ill. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Amy Maxwell New member Username: amyqmaxwell Post Number: 16 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 70.57.15.71 Rating: N/A |
Maggie, My little buckling just doesn't seem to be recovering at a stable rate from his Joint Ill. How long does it usually take to recover fully? He was born real weak to begin with and wasn't walking well from the start. The vet has him on an antibiotic (forgot to look and see which one it was this morning before leaving the house). I know it's not the oxytri like you suggested. I'm giving him .5 cc SQ once a day. He seems like he's still in pain. Just when I think he's getting better and walking a little etc. he's goes back down again. He poops out quickly just walking around slowly for a few minutes. He lays down most of the time and I'm bottle feeding him on a regular basis. Yesterday I could hardly get him to eat but after picking up a shot of pain med. from the vet in the afternoon he ate really well and walked around for awhile. Then in the middle of the night he seemed to be hurting again. He grinds his teeth pretty regularly. I've been giving him Children's Liquid Tylenol but am not sure on the amount so have only been doing .4 ml at a time. My Vet does not know much about goats as we only have a couple kids in 4-H up here doing it, including ourselves. He has to look up everything online. Any help would be wonderful as I don't want to lose this little guy. Thanks! | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 693 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141 Rating: N/A |
Floppy Kid is caused by a metabolic acidosis and in the early stages can be treated by giving pepto bismol or baking soda and water. You can read several articles about it on the Articles page. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Amy Maxwell New member Username: amyqmaxwell Post Number: 15 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 70.57.15.71 Rating: N/A |
Maggie, I dropped little Jack off at the vet and they agreed with me on Joint Ill and are going to start antibiotics. I will mention the Selenium to them and the floppy kid syndrome. How do you treat floppy kid?? Thanks once again for all your help! | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 690 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 64.102.64.113 Rating: N/A |
I would say selenium deficiency and becasue he has been the weakest he isn't getting enough nutrition to make up for it. Try giving BoSe, but this will take several days to a week to help. Put him on a bottle, treat for Floppy Kid too. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Amy Maxwell New member Username: amyqmaxwell Post Number: 14 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 70.57.15.71 Rating: N/A |
Maggie, I have a nine day old buckling that was born from the Nubian doe that can't walk. He was weak from the beginning, walked on his "knuckles" on his back legs but then seemed to be doing better. He was walking, slow and stiff but seemed happy and his back feet straightened out but now he seems to be getting worse each day. He does not nurse on his mommy like the other two and he's at the point now where he can't get up on his own and can barely stand without falling over. This morning he can barely lift his head up. Help??? Any suggestions? The other two kids are healthy and running and jumping, was he just too squished during the pregnancy or could he have something really wrong with him???? I have him at work with me today as I just couldn't leave him home all day without being tended to. |