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Michelle Simmons
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Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 02:26 pm:   

Make sure you do your research first. Many chemicals used in humans are as unsafe for us as the are for the worms.
Worms are an emergancy no matter what
And so is creating drug restant forms in animals & humans as well.
P>s> Don't forget you can contract worms when safely handleing your goats

Wormwood has never been proven to cause birth defect or abortion in anything alone
Do use your internet & read carefully
Often propaganda against herbal treatment is put out by the pharmacy themseleves
Check european archives to find the truth when it is barried in America
Some pepole say valerian root and kona kava cause the same.
This is also untrue
So make sure what you are posting as a vet is true, not personal belief
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Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 12:11 pm:   

This forum is for emergencies only. Please post items like this on the non emergency forum.

Ivermectin is used in humans in many countries...Herbal wormers that contain wormwood (and many do) can cause abortion and birth defects.

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Michelle Simmons
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Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 08:40 am:   

Lets talk worms. In goats worms can kill if left unchecked, But is Ivomec really safe for goats?
Maybe as long as you do not raise them for food of any kind. I did a lot of research on Ivomec, & found it widely used in goats & highly dangerous.
#1. The producer of Ivomec says never use Ivomec if you plan to drink your animals milk.
#2 never use in your studs, as it it passed to fetus.
#3 it is for cattle, 1 36cc bottle is used to treat 500 head of 1100 pound animals.
So 1cc per 25 pounds of goat while used very often is likely to not be very safe.
When faced with a worm overload I use EquioPathics Worm Clear made for goats ( sheep, horse &cattle)
100% safe no worries of slauter dates or NEVER being able to drink a nanny's milk again.
This product was wondwerful!
Two days after starting 1cc orally per gaot. Worms were under control, & my prize Billy was back on grain.Plus I only have to use product every 90 days to ensure worm free goats. So only 4 times a year. Also you can start treatment without worring about how long it has been sence your last Ivomec usage. And it is much less costly than Ivomec.Because you wont need it for 500 cattle.
I invite all of you to read all of the fallowing & ask for a copy of the article concerning worms in goats.
Further more no one wants a restant strian of worms.
I also love the product mentioned below,& I use it on my chickens, ducks & dogs. No worm problems ever in anyone.
Plus it will never interfear with A Organic or Chemial free farm. Good Luck to all.

If you love your goats Please take the time read
United Caprine News report.

WORMS WORMS WORMS

The problem of parasite control in goats is the subject of continuing study among the experts and continuing opinions among goat owners. Admittedly, controlling parasites is necessary and left unchecked, worms can actually kill. Some symptoms to look for, if you suspect worms, are gums and inside of lower eye lid pale, gray or white (gums & inside of eye lid should be bright pink), anti-social behavior, loose stool and possibly coughing. If you choose to use one of the many many chemical wormers on the market you run into a number of variables. We get daily calls from folks who have lots of questions.

Timing is critical because if the worms have the opportunity to lay eggs then reworming will be necessary. But when to reworm? Two weeks? Ten days? Who really knows?
And then there's the matter of the worms becoming resistant to the chemical you're currently using. Do you alternate chemicals on a regular basis or wait til resistance occurs and then change? If you wait til the chemical no longer works have you put your goats in danger of a serious infestation?
Oh, and what about the health of pregnant does and their unborn kids? Some chemical wormers warn against giving their product to expectant moms.
How long do you have to wait before it's safe to drink the milk after worming? I've heard everything from a coupld of days to a month or more.
Which chemicals are really safe for goats since none claim to be approved for goats? Is it better to use a pour-on, a bolus, a drench or an injectable? If you administer an injectable orally, how much do you give? Wow - it's enough to make your eyes cross.

Talking from our own experience of 65 years of goat keeping, I tell them about the Herbal Wormer. It has always worked for us.

The Herbal Wormer, when given in the feed once a week as directed
Maintains a safe, effective level of natural paraside that the worms never become resistant to.
It will not harm pregnant does, unborn kids or young ones.
You never have to throw away that wonderful milk that you and your goat work so hard to produce.
The herbal wormer is easy to administer and very economical to use.

We were happy, but not surprised, to read the United Caprine News report that showed the Herbal Wormer to be more effective than the most popular, widely used chemical wormer. We will send you a copy of that report upon request.

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