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     Debbi New member Username: putteroak Post Number: 1 Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 205.188.116.137 Rating: N/A |
Thank you Maggie for all your help! My goat recieved the vitamin B injections but continues to not eat and have diarrhea. The vet suggested feeding Cheerios to him. My goat wondered why I had not been feeding this to him his whole life! However after 3 days of cheerios he has stopped eating again and his diarrhea which was starting to get thicker is now back to being watery again. My vet is concerned as we have wormed him with ivomectrin as well as panacur and nothing seems to help. Do you have any suggestions?! The red cell worked wonders for his anemia! He is not bloated anymore! (He was on 15cc once a day for a week, he is off of it today) I am worried as I am not sure how much more diarrhea his body can take as he is 17. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1207 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109  Rating: N/A |
I give 1 to 3 tablespoons of vegetable oil orally then stand (or hold a kid) with the head end higher than the rear end and deeply massage the left flank area (where the bloated rumen is) to help break up the bubbles holding the gas and help the goat burp. Once the bloat is relieved give 2 tablespoons of baking soda in water to help reduce the acidosis and 15 cc Milk of Magnesia every 6 hours until the poop goes from normal to clumpy then back to normal to help move out whatever it was that caused the bloat. If you have CD antitoxin (this is not the vaccine but is used to actually TREAT enterotoxemia) give that too according to the label instructions for treating entero. In emergencies like this it would be better to look up and call a medic rather than posting here and waiting for a response. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| james (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 75.109.0.134 Rating: N/A |
I found my goat bloated at first he would not stand i got him up and moving what do i do next | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1203 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 64.102.64.115 Rating: N/A |
With as anemic as he is the recovery will be slow. Go online and order some Fortified B Complex. When you need it, you need it now you don't have time to wait for the vet. He should get it every day for a week or two. Your goat was probably only days away from dying. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Debbi (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 205.188.116.137 Rating: N/A |
Thank you so much! He seems to be doing better. Hopefully I will get the vitamin B shot from my vet tomorrow. I wormed him and he has been getting 15 cc of Red Cell for the past 3 days. He is eating grass and he is much less bloated! The bump under his jaw is almost completely gone. However, he still has very watery diarrhea and he is falling a lot when he walks. Should I be worried or is the process slow when recovering? | ||
| Don S. (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 172.164.244.155 Rating: N/A |
The B-complex aids the sick goat in preventing or recovering from anemia as well as other ailments. Here is a brief breakdown to help understand... The B vitamins that are found in B-complex solution have many important functions towards maintaining good health. B-12, your main ingredient in the solution, prevents anemia. It aids folic acid in regulating the formation of red blood cells, and helps in the utilization of iron. This vitamin is also required for proper digestion, absorption of foods, the synthesis of protein, and the metabolism of carbohydrates and fats. (B1) Thiamine enhances circulation and assists in blood formation, carbohydrate metabolism, and the production of hydrochloric acid, which is important for proper digestion. Thiamine also optimizes cognitive activity and brain function. Riboflavin (vitamin B2) is crucial in the production of body energy. B-6 is involved in many bodily functions. One is promoting red blood cell formation. The B-complex Plus or Fortified B-complex can be found at local farm supply stores like Tractor Supply. You can also order it online or thru mail order catalog from Vet supply dealers like Valley Vet Supply,American Livestock Supply,Jeffers, etc. I think also be beneficial to give your goat a daily treatment of probios for several days to help stimulate appetite. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1197 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
Vitamin B helps with nerve function and helps heal the damaged gut. It promotes a good appetite, in general makes the goat feel better. B Complex injectable formulas are available at many feed stores or by mail order (Jeffers, Valley Vet...). If you have the choice buy the FORTIFIED B Complex rather than the regular formula, it is the one useful (vital) for treating a case of polio as it has about 10 times as much thiamin as the regular formula. Straight thiamin (vitamin B1) is the one by prescription only (don't ask me why...). Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 64.12.116.9 Rating: N/A |
Thank you so much! Is the vitamin B for the anemia? Can you get vitamin B somewhere other then the vet? | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1195 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
Check his lower inner eyelids. They should be a bright rosy pink. If they are pale or white he is anemic and that would be the cause of his swelling on his face (it swells because he has it below his heart as he is nibbling grass and fluid pools there). This is called bottle jaw, but the whole head can swell as can the legs. Goats with diarrhea may not show worm eggs in their stool giving a false negative for worms. A bloated abdomen can indicate worms too (just like in wormy puppies) and his normal rumen will look larger as he loses weight from the diarrhea and not eating well. The first thing most wormy goats give up is their grain ration, then their hay eating only grass and drinking water. I would try deworming with ivermectin injectable for cattle, it is safe for sick goats. Give it orally at 1 cc per 20 pounds for 2 days. GIve B Complex injectable once a day, follow the dosage for sheep if one isn't given for goats. You can give Goat Nutridrench, Redcell for horses (half the hose dose) or Geritol to help with vitamins, minerals and iron. He is old but congestive heart failure DOES NOT cause diarrhea. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Debbi (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 64.12.116.9 Rating: N/A |
I have a 17 yr old goat who has had diarrhea for the past two weeks. The vet checked the stool for worms and bacteria and said that there were no signs of either. My goat's regular vet is away and this particular vet said the diarrhea was due to old age and his body shutting down. Today he is bloated and his ears are drooping. He will munch on some grass but does not have a big appetitie. Could his body be shutting down! Do goats get congestive heart faliure? His eyes and face are also really puffy. Please, any suggestions would be appreciated! |