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     Pam M. (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 67.72.98.112 Rating: N/A |
I use the sweetlix meatmaker minerals free choice (have added acidified copper sulfate to the mixture before) and she had received her Bo-Se injection the day before she miscarried. I was worried about saving the colostrum in case it was something that could be passed on through the milk...is that possible? None of my other does have trouble kidding or passing placentas. I am in south Mississippi...yes, we lack selenium and copper though the local vet says no. Since I have used Bo-Se my kids have been stronger and the sacs they are contained in are no longer tough, breaking easily at birth. I am really thinking it is something genetic or specific to this doe only. Had someone tell me Bo-Se could have caused it because the label warns against using in pregnant ewes...anything to that? | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1271 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109  Rating: N/A |
Not passing the placenta even though she was early suggests a mineral deficiency, likely selenium but could also be copper. Where are you located? Do you give BoSe? What kind of mineral do you use? Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1270 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
Have the fetuses and placenta checked for chlamydia and toxo. Go from there. Save the colostrum, don't let this kidding go to waste. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Pam M. (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 67.72.98.110 Rating: N/A |
Just an update...around 11:30 last night, Bella delivered two doelings in a very long and painful delivery; her ligaments never completely loosened. The kids were premature, jellied clear hooves, no teeth,lungs underdeveloped but obviously only days away from being viable. The first lived only a few minutes, the second a few longer. I left them with her...she was a very good mama, cleaning them well and very attentive, had plenty of milk, just two hopeless kids. I wonder now if this is going to continue happening each time she is bred or should I try the third time before giving up on her. Any thoughts? Also she didn't pass the placenta so I had to give her oxytocin...that worked, plus a Pro Pen G shot since I assisted. Anything else to do? | ||
| Pam M. (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 67.72.98.114 Rating: N/A |
Actually, I shouldn't have said vaccinated, didn't use the vaccine...used LA200 on her and everyone else. Tonight I checked her and she has some mucous discharge. I have cats, no kittens, all neutered, and they wander through barns catching any unfortunate mice. This doe though is the only one that has ever given me trouble. Guess I'll just be on pins and needles especially since I am going out of town next week and leaving my poor, nervous hubby at home on ob duty. Another doe is due around the 7th. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 1269 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.230.109 Rating: N/A |
DOn't know wht to tell you except to wait. I have seen does do this and go to term. If she actually had (or has) a chlamydia infection the vaccine might not have helped her (or any of the others). LA 200 will cure chlamydia, give at 1 cc per 30 pounds by SQ injection every other day for 3 treatments. Vaccines are only effect for animals that are not infected. Do you have barn cats that live in the hay loft? Especially ones having kittens? Or perhaps your hay supplier has cats in the hay barn? It could be a toxoplasmosis infection rather than chlamydia. The symptoms are the same. I believe you can have a fecal done to check for toxo, or have the aborted fetuses and placenta checked. Toxo can cause repeated abortions and may be harder to cure. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Pam M. (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 67.72.98.116 Rating: N/A |
My almost 3 year old reg. pygmy doe lost her first kids when she delivered 15 days early back in January. They were born alive, with hair, but gasped for breath...lungs just weren't developed enough. I thought it might be chlamydia so I vaccinated her and the other pregnant does and my buck and had no more problems with anyone else. Now this same doe is at day 136 and her bag has suddenly filled overnight and more today, she is talking, and standoffish. Still has some ligaments left to feel but they have softened considerably. I don't have anything to compare this to for her since she just suddenly delivered with no warning last time. I've never had a doe display all these signs so early before. I've had does deliver as early as 142 with no problems at all...is 136 or 137 too early for viable kids? I delivered and raised this doe and had such high hopes for her kids. Could there be some genetic problem? The two sets of kids were by two different bucks. Thanks for any input on this problem. |