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     Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 52 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.205.236 Rating: N/A |
Holding a buck by the beard is how my vet does it (he has handled goats all his life) and it does seem to work as a twitch does on a horse. Horns can break! | ||
| Ann Flickinger New member Username: annflickinger Post Number: 18 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 69.72.18.12 Rating: N/A |
This may sound like a little unethical thing to try and I am very protective of my own goats, but I do what I can (with a lot of experimentation on holding techniques since I have a very large wether who is extremely hard to handle) when I need to work on them. I would definately not try this on a goat with horns for your safety, but I recently found that if I grip his enitre beard up close to his chin I get his attention and he doesn't move much. I think it may be similiar to twitching a horse in a sense. Afterwards he is never mad at me as he has been in the past with other conventional methods. If your goat would fight it it may not be the method to use. By the way, how do you manage to trim his hooves? I found a method that works for my big guy, although this even took a while for him to get used to it. There is a method for holding a goat by his horns, but I have no idea how, since my boys are all dehorned. Hope you can find a way to administer what he needs. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 51 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.205.236 Rating: N/A |
If he is an intact buck it is normal sexual behavior for him to drink his urine (and spray it on his face and forelegs). It is also pretty normal for bucks in rut to have very little appetite. You may be able to deworm by using a pour on ivermectin, give at least 4 times the dose used for cattle, part the hair and be sure the stuff goes on the skin. Again I recommend treating for 2 to 3 days and repeating it in 2 weeks. All of the meds I suggested are available at most feedstores or on line from livestock supply companies such as Valley Vet or Jeffers. But if you can't handle him to treat him there isn't much you can do. I don't know what else to suggest, except to let nature take its course or get help handling the goat. Bucks with poor manners are difficult and dangerous to deal with in any situation. | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 65.40.68.97 Rating: N/A |
There's a problem with all this. The buck is a very very large goat. I mean he comes up to my stomach and he weighs alot. He'll never hold still for an injection or something given orally I'm really the only one he won't buck on sight beside my mother and I can't hold him back. I don't know what all these injections are. We jsut have a local feed mill near our house. He's been trying to drink his urine,but I've observed he is drinking water | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 49 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.205.236 Rating: N/A |
Have you had a fecal test done to see if he has worms? This is the number one cause of anemia in goats. This is the most likely cause of the symptoms you give. Look at his lower inner eyelids, they should be bright rosy pink like ours. If they are pale or white he is anemic. I usually recommend using Ivomec injectable for Cattle, give it ORALLY, not by injection. Give AT LEAST 1 cc per 25 pounds, you can safely give 50 times this amount and not hurt the goat. Please be absolutely sure to give enough. Give it for 3 days and repeat in 2 weeks. Many white dewormers such as Safeguard are no longer effective at any dose, and most of the time the correct dose for goats with nearly any wormer is 2 to 5 times the dose given to horses, cattle or sheep. Many vets and feed stores don't know this. You can rebuild the red blood cells by giving Goat Nutridrench or Geritol (give the adult dose), give either of these 2 times a day for 3 to 4 weeks. You can also give B complex injectable (you can give this orally too if you like) once a day to promote digestive tract health and good appetite. Some plants may cause the red blood cells to burst, oak is one of them. Horses and cattle are the most affected but if goats eat too many oak leaves or especially acorns they can get this too. if the goat also has a parasite load this would make eating oak leaves and acorns potentially more dangerous. | ||
| (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 65.40.68.97 Rating: N/A |
I have a 7 year old Buck that has stopped eating except for very light nibbling and picking at the leaves I gather for him. The mother died of a blood disease where the red blood cells began to burst. We had to put her down Now the buck is showing the same symptoms of not eating. We caught it earlier this time,but I'm afraid we'll have to put him down too. He's a pet goat and very loved here. Does anyone know a way to help him? |