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     Deb Benson New member Username: grannydeb47 Post Number: 10 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 69.29.209.60 Rating: N/A |
My post was wrong. I meant live fluke worms. Sorry.....the buck is doing so much better this morning. Not sure if it was the antibiotics or what. But I am going to check out these other avenues you mention. So maybe I and he can avoid going threw this again. Thanks so much for all the info, and help | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 260 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 64.102.64.113 Rating: N/A |
The fecal check for lungworms is most often inconclusive. Lungworms don't often appear in the feces except during a very short time in their life span. Does the buck cough? This is the most indicative sign of lungworms. The constant dosing with deowrmers can be very upsetting to the goat's digestive system, it may take many weeks of being off meds to let everything heal and get back to something resembling normal. If teh buck is not anemic and the fecals are clean then let's assume his probelm is not parasites. Have you tested for CAE, CL and Johne's? All of these can cause the sysmtpoms you are seeing... Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Deb Benson New member Username: grannydeb47 Post Number: 9 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 69.29.209.60 Rating: N/A |
The bucks eyelids are a very light pink. Not white yet. The vet ran a blood workup. The buck is not anemic, also he ran a fecal no worms. The vet is stumped. He has me giving the buck a strong antibiotic/Oxytecdor (spelling?) 6CC 1x/week for three weeks. Because of the white blood cell count being low. I did convence the vet to run a fecal for Lung Worms. He does have loose mineral/Sweet Lix.(free choice) But from what I can tell he does not eat this. But so far there are no signs that you mention. Of sparse hair around eyes, or the tail tip bald. His hair is good color. I have a rush order in for Ivermec Plus. He has already gotten quit a few differnet wormers in him now. Looks like I may have underdosed with the Panacure. He also received Ivermec along with the Panacure dose. As per the Vet's instuctions last time this happened. Thanks so much for all your help. Even sense yesterday the buck has lost even more weight. He is eating hay, no grain (turns his nose up) The vet was wondering if it was possable, the buck just can not get climatized. I bought him from a very dry climate. And moved him here into a very wet area. I am sorry just babbleing, very worried about my boy. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 259 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141 Rating: N/A |
What exactly do you meen the eyelids are dull? Are the inside surfaces white? This is where you look for signs of anemia, on the inside of the lowere eyelid. It should be bright salmon pink. Is he getting a loose mineral with adequate copper? Copper deficiency can make the hair be very sparse around the eyes, giving a "ringed" look, the tail tip will often be bald and the coat may be faded, like sunbleached... If you are doing a fecal check within 3 weeks of deworming it will come back negative even if the goat is loaded. The Safeguard should get liver flukes if you gave at least 1 cc per 10 poundsfor 3 to 5 days or you can use the Ivomec+ Injectable for Cattle, which has an added drug for liver flukes. Give at 1 cc per 25 pounds orally. Valbazen also gets liver flukes, give this at 1 cc per 10 pounds. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Deb Benson New member Username: grannydeb47 Post Number: 8 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 69.29.209.60 Rating: N/A |
Last Sunday the 1st I gave the buck 20CC cydectin (yep a bit to much) Then today he got 15CC panacure + 7CC Ivermec........Along with 30CC Dyne,1tablet Gerital, 6CC Fortified VitB,20mg ProBios. I threw everything but the kitchen sink at him. The vet did do a blood draw. He came back with not ememic, no worms (which I question this?) Eyelids very very dull. And said the buck has a low white cell blood count. Which the vet mention may be damage to the liver. And wants to place him on a strong antibiotic????? No fever so I have no idea why we want to do this. Violet and I are figuring maybe it is liver fluke??????? I am just at my wits end. The buck is eating hay and drinking. But I can tell he is not feeling his normal self. I have tried using your formula of measurement on the goats. I must be doing something wrong. But according to the weigh tape my buck weighs in at 175 lbs. He will be 2 yrs old in April. | ||
| Maggie Leman Moderator Username: maggieleman Post Number: 251 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.111.216.141 Rating: N/A |
Have you actually weighed the goat? I have a formula for very accurately figuring weight, and many people find out they are underdosing. You may need to change dewormers. What are you using now and what have you used in the past? All dewormers become less effective over time and you have to change. Maggie Leman Goat 911 Capri Medic | ||
| Deb Benson New member Username: grannydeb47 Post Number: 7 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 69.29.209.60 Rating: N/A |
Buck sick again. Sense Aug I have been having problems with worms in my buck. I have a call into the vet. I am at my wits end....the bucks eyes are dull, and I hit him with wormer agian, and also Vit B and ProBios. He is not down, and is eating hay fine. Just does not seem to be himself. The vet mention it may be something other than worms. Yes I have been giving the right dose of wormer. Only because I read these post fathfully. What else could cause the dull eyelids???????? Deb |