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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 06:21 pm:   

Great idea!
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Ann Flickinger
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 05:44 pm:   

Thank you, Maggie. He is doing much better today, but still cannot eat much the hay I usually feed, so I have been giving him chopped timothy and alfalfa mixed so he is getting his roughage.
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 07:25 am:   

A goat can go a long time on just water, water actually being more important than food. You might try a very soupy gruel of oatmeal for him to just kind of suck up. Give his pain meds about an hour before feeding so they have taken effect.
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Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 09:22 pm:   

I am getting a little worried about him. I gave some extra hay tonight and he just stood there while the others ate and finally tried to chew a piece of hay and he could not chew it, so I tried oatmeal dry and he struggled trying to take pieces, so I made a warm mash from it and he turned his head away. As a last resort to see how interested he was in wanting something to eat I brought out the pro bios (to him it is like candy) he took it willingly, but once he had it in his mouth he acted like he could not get it down and he lifted his head straight up in the air moving his tongue a lot as though he had no power to push it back to swallow. I don't see any additional swelling on the outside, but concerned that he is swelled on the inside or his tongue. His sides were moving more than usual, but he does not seem like he is having a hard time breathing. If he is not eating tomorrow morning do you have any suggestions for what to give him to eat to help keep him going? I don't want him to start going downhill.
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 03:23 pm:   

Poor guy! He will get better though just needs time. Banamine really does seem to work better for goats than the motrin.
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Ann Flickinger
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Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 03:17 pm:   

Thanks for your help. he is really painful and when he chews his cud his jaw does not move smoothly like it used to. The banamine the vet gave is the paste and not the injection, but he does not to get any until tomorrow and then one more dose the day after. He is a lot better than this morning.
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 02:29 pm:   

Don't try to clean his mouth, these wounds heal fast with no further treatment. The blood clot is not necessarily a bad thing at this point and may be necessary for keeping debris and food out of a wound.

Give the banamine for pain, it has no worse side effects than any other NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflamatory drug) pain killer including motrin. And since it is given by injection may have less side effect than motrin given orally. It will help him to feel lots better. It is the long term use of these types of painkillers that cause the problem not using them for a few days.

Make sure he gets a chance to eat and able to take his time. This was likely a fluke accident.
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Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 01:11 pm:   

My 10 month old wether was fine last night, but when i went to feed this morning he was laying down and seemed a bit lethargic. I gave him his hay and he got up and didn't really act hungry at first and then tried nibbling hay, but dropped it out of his mouth. I saw that the lower front portion of his jaw was swollen about double in size. I had him to the vet within an hour and the vet was feeling his mouth inside and a big coagulated blood clot came out of his mouth. The vet said he must of gotten hit in the face, but his jaw didn't appear broken. vet gave him a shot of ketofen for pain and also Nuflor and sent me home with another dose of nuflor and banamine for pain. I don't want to give banamine for pain, since it is not good for the digestive system and wondered if children's motrin would be a better option? I also wondered what else I can do for him. he is eating hay, but very slowly and also grain too. Do complications result from a blood clot? should I try to clean or rinse his mouth? will the blood clot reform since the vet broke the other?

Thanks for your help.

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