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Cindy Hance
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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 07:24 am:   

AAAWWWHHHHH! They are so cute! I have to say I have boers and pygmies and nothing compares to a pygmy baby! I don't think there is anything cuter-mine are so cute I just can't stand it! Best of luck - hope everything turn out alright!
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 05:50 am:   

OMG Christina they are adorable, ALL THOSE SPOTS! Please join our happy little group.
Maggie Leman
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Christina F. (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:59 pm:   

Yeah that's kind of how I'm feeling about the antibiotics. She's nursing all three really well and there really isn't one that's smaller than the other. They are pretty equally sized. We've been offering them the bottle twice a day right now just to make sure they are getting enough. They all eat a little off the bottle but seem to be full enough from mom for now. However I know with three and just the one teat she'll need help later when they are bigger so we are just getting them used to the whole bottle idea now. I think I'm just going to keep monitoring the situation and go from there. Thanks for all the help....I might just have to join this forum ;)

PS....thought you might all like to see what you are helping me with.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/foster1005/PANA0222.jpg
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Cindy Hance
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:08 pm:   

We had the same problem about a month ago. Triplets with only 1 teat. She fed two of them very well with the one, they would not except the bottle. But, the smallest one always got pushed out of the way and sucked down the bottle. At about 3 weeks they all seem to start taking turns and my baby wouldn't take the bottle anymore. Our doe had a hard round ball in her teat and the vet came and said he could remove it but no it wasn't worth the cost. If antibotics are going to cause the babies not to be able to nurse I personally would leave it but that is just my opinion - I new at this myself so,,,I would definately try to supplement though to see if they'll take it just in case- if they won't take it just keep an eye on them and make sure it looks like they are getting enough...Maggie and the others have been a great help to me, Good luck!
Cindy
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Christina F. (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 07:22 pm:   

Okay so I guess what I need to know is what do you think I should do about it? Should I just leave it alone and let her dry up on that side? Would you do the antibiotics if it was your goat?
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 03:24 pm:   

CAE is Caprine Arthritic Encephalitis an incurable disease that can cause a variety of symptoms. The main ones are arthritis in the front knees and hard udders, this occurs most often in adult goats and symptoms may appear anywhere from 2 years to 5 years old and older (sometimes never). It can also come in an encephalitic form and causes progressive weakness and then paralysis in the rear legs of young goats. It is passed mostly through the colostrum and milk from dam to kids. There is a fairly reliable blood test for CAE.

I suspect your doe has mastitis of some form seeing that only one side is affected.
Maggie Leman
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 02:14 pm:   

No nothing comes out when I milk it. It's like there's nothing in there at all. My vet said to give Naxel or Penn. I have a bottle of Penn and some LA200. And what is CAE? She does seem to be doing a great job of feeding them of the one side and there is definately milk coming from that teat. She's really good about making sure they all nurse.
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Maggie Leman
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 02:06 pm:   

Are you getting anything out? Some does with CAE get hard udders with no milk but it is not mastitis. If you leave it alone it will probably just dry up and the milk will be reabsorbed. Plenty of does can raise multiple kids with just one side functioning, especially since you are helping her out.

If you decide to give antibiotics I recommend using LA 200 or Naxcel, but not the Today if you want to leave the kids with her. I have done this with no bad effects, not enough of the antibiotics comes through the milk to hurt the kids when it is given as a systemic injection rather than an intramammary infusion. This will work best if you keep milking that side but only if you can get something out.
Maggie Leman
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Christina F. (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 01:55 pm:   

I have a fainter doe that kidded last night. She had three beautiful babies that are all healthy and seem to be doing well. However, she is only producing milk in one side of her udder. The other side is hard but not hot and the teat is smaller and empty and soft. I have been using warm compresses, massaging it, and milking it. I called my vet and he said that I could use antibiotics if I "felt" like it but that he wasn't sure if she'd get milk or not or if it was mastitis or not. I've been told on another sight to give her Today in the teat on the bad side but don't want to give her anything that will mean the babies can't nurse. They are all nursing well off the other side and we are supplimenting them with a bottle and whole cow's milk. They try to nurse off of the bad side but she pushes them away after a minute or so. It obviously is either painful or at the very least uncomfortable for it to be messed with and she fights like crazy when I milk and massage it. Any tips would be very much appreciated. Thanks.

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